^co-Z-: Ihn-Iç t\Xm-|-fm-bn-Ão-cp-Ð-Xn-s\-Ôân Aª-bpsS A`vn-{]m-b-sa-ÌmWv?Ihn-X-bpsS klm-b-tÃmsS Ahá|v Cu tem-Isà IqSp-Xã\æ Hcn-S-am-|n-amâm-\-mhptam?

Imav\á:- t\Xm-|-ç icn|pw Ihn-I-fm-hp-ÐXvv Hcp \æ Bi-b-am-Wv. FÐmã\æ Ihn-Ifpw Ihn-X-I-sf-gp-Xp-Ð-hcpw XÛnã henb Hcp hyXym-k-ap-¾v. IS-em-knã CXp-hsc Hc-¢-c-sagp-Xmà \æ, hfsc \æ Ihn-I-fp-¾v, FÐmã IS-em-knã Nd-]-dm-IhnXsb-gp-Xn-s|m-¾n-cn-|p-Ð Ihn-I-fm-bn-cp-Ðn-ºn-æmà Nne-cp-ap-¾v. ChnsS Ata-cn-|Ë sFIy-\m-Sp-I-fnã Ihn-I-fm-b-dn-b-sÔ-SpÐ an|-hcpw tIhew A|m-Z-an-|p-I-fm-Wv. káê-I-em-imem s{]m^-káamcpw AXp-t]m-ep-è-h-cpw. A|m-Z-an-|p-I-fmcpw Ihn-X-sb-gp-XmË ]mSn-sæ-Ðæ RmË ]d-bp-Ð-Xv, Ahá|v Ihn-X-sb-kw-_-Ïn® ]e-Xp-a-dn-bmw, cq]w, Xmfw, inev]w Aªs\ ]e-Xpw. Ahá|n-æm-ÃXv BÇm-hm-Wv, BÌ-cn-I-Po-hn-X-am-Wv. Ah-cnãkw-Láj-an-æ, sNIp-Ãm\pw ]nim-Nn-\p-sa-Xnsc AhnsS Hcp ka-c-hp-an-æ. CXmWv Ihnsb Ihn-bm-|p-Ð-Xv,. ]eá|pw CsX-Ìm-sWÐv t]mep-a-dn-bn-æ.


^co-Z-: : Ihn-sbÐ \ne-bnã Xm©ç Fª-s\-bmWv bpÊsà t\m|n-|m-Wp-ÐXv? Xm©-fpsS cmPyÃv kam-[m-\-Ãn-\pè GI-amá£-ambn bpÊw Icp-X-sÔ-Sp-Ð-sX-Ìp-sIm-¾mWv?

Im-av\á: -bpÊm-hn-jvS-cmb Bfp-Iç, _pjn-s\-tÔmse bpÊw A\n-hm-cyhpw \náØ-Ï-hp-am-|n-Ãoá|p-Ð-há, Ahás|mcp Ipg-Ô-ap-¾v, Ahá Hcp t_mIvkn-en-cp-ÐmWv Imcy-ªç Btem-Nn-|p-Ð-Xv. Hcp Xpc-©Ãn-eq-sS-bpè ImgvN-bmWv bpÊw. Xm©ç|v Adn-bm-saÐv F\n-|p-d-Ôm-Wv, Ata-cn-|-bnse alm-`q-cn-]-¢hpw CtÔm-gsà Cu Cdm|v bpÊ-Ãn\v FXn-cm-Wv. Rm\pw Ah-cn-sem-cm-fm-Wv. RmË Icp-Xp-ÐXv Abm-fXv sNàp-Ð-Xv, XsÒ ]nXm-hns\ C{Úüv sNàm-\m-Wv, Asæ-©nã ]nXm-hnsÒ ]cm-P-b-Ãn\v ]Icw hoºm-\m-Wv. At\Iw Ata-cn-|-|má Cu bpÊsà A[máan-I-bp-Ê-sa-ÐmWv hnti-jn-Ôn-|p-Ð-Xv. kÉmw lpssüËNn-{X-Ãn-en-æm-Ã-Xnã F\n|v Zp:Jan-æ. ]t¢, Hcp-Imcyw Xoá®-bm-Wv, Abm-ç\ÛpsS cmPysà B{I-an-|p-I-b-æ-sN-bvX-Xv. _nË emZË CtÔmgpw kzXv{Ì-\m-bn-cn|p-Ð-Xn-s\-Ô-ânbpw F\n|v kwi-b-ª-fp-¾v. _pjnsÒ IpSpw-_-Ãn\v emZË IpSpw-_-ambn hmWn-Py-k-Úá|-ª-fp-s¾Ðv Fæm-há-|p-a-dn-bmw. CsXms| ]c-kv]cw _Ï-sÔ-ºp-In-S|pÐp-¾mhmw, F\n-|-dn-bn-æ. - F\n-|-dn-bm-hp-Ð-Xn-{X-am-{Xw, c¾p-`m-K-Ãp-ambn Hcp ]mSv a\p-jy-Po-hn-X-ªç\-jvS-am-bn, C\nbpw \jvS-am-hpw. t\m|q, bpÊw {`mÌm-Wv.FÐnºpw AXn-æm-Xm-hp-Ðn-æ. a\pjyá \io-I-c-W-tÃ-|mç kzÌw káKm-Ç-I-X-sbbpw, `mh-\m-ti-jn-sbbpw B{i-bn-®n-cp-sÐ-©nã Xoá®-bmbpw Cu temIw IqSp-Xã \æ Hcn-S-am-tb-t\.


^co-Z-: _pjv ho¾pw sXc-s¹-Sp-|-sÔ-º-tXmsS Ata-cn-|Ëkm-ln-Xysà \ap|v c¾mbn tháXn-cn-|mw, Ata-cn-|ËP-\m-[n-]-Xy-ÃnsÒ ]X-\-Ãn\v apÚpw ]nÚp-apè kmlnXywF-Ð-\n-e-bnã- kmw lmançºsÒ hnv`P-\-am-Wn-Xv. Xm©ç CXn-t\mSv tbmPn-|p-Ðpthm?

Imav\á:- Hºpw tbmKy-X-bn-æm-sX-bmWv Xm\n-cn-|pÐ ]Z-hn-bnã _pjv Ccn-|p-Ð-Xv. A{Xbpw {][m-\-amb ]Z-hn-bm-W-Xv. Abmç\-ÛpsS Cu {Klsà ]n®n-®o-Ìp-I-bm-Wv. Hcp-]-t¢, AXp-sIm-¾m-hWw Abmç C{Xbpw {][m-\-sÔº Hcm-fm-hp-Ð-Xv. ImcWw , Abm-fptSsXÐv ]d-bm-hpÐ t\º-ªç \ÛpsS Cu cmPysà tIhew Hcgp|v NmÔ-bn-te|v sIºn-sb-Sp-|pw. Ata-cn| I¾ Gâhpw tamiw {]kn-U-¾m-bn-ºmWv ]ecpw Abmsf ImWp-Ð-Xv. Abm-fpsS A°Ë ImcWw am{X-amWv Abmç{]-kn-U¾v ]Z-hn-bn-en-cn-|p-Ð-Xv. thsd bmsXmcp Imc-W-hp-an-æ. hfsc Zp:JI-c-am-Wn-Xv. kzÌw ZuXyÃnsÒ adp-X-e-bv|ãa-\p-jy-cp-s¾Ðv _pjv a\-ün-em-|p-Ðn-æ; B ZuXyw FÌpam-bn-s|m-èsº. Aª-s\-bp-sèm-cmç|v Hcp Np|pw a\-ün-em-|m-\m-hn-æ. tPmáPv _pjv aqÐmw temI-bp-Ê-ap-¾m-|mË {ian-|p-I-bm-sWÐv RmË `b-sÔ-Sp-Ðp. Ata-cn-|-bn-sem-gnsI Fhn-sSbpw P\m-[n-]Xyw thW-sa-Ðm-W-bmç I-cp-Xp-Ð-sXÐv tXmÐp-Ðp. ssk\ysà ]nË hen-|mË tIm½{Küv Xocp-am-\n-®p, Abm-fXv hotâm sNbvXp. CtÔmçap-Ô-Ã-àm-bncw ]ºm-f-|msc IqSn Ab-|p-I-bm-Wv. \miw! Abmsf Bá|pw I¾p IqSm. \ÛpsS Cu `qan-sbÐ {Kl-Ãn\v henb klmbw Bh-iy-ap-¾v. AXn\v {`mÌv ]nSn-®n-cn-|p-I-bm-Wv.


^co-Z-: Cªs\ kwkm-cn-|mË Xm©ç|v t]Sn-bntæ?Xm©ç|v bmsXm-cm-]-Ãp-antæ? RmË CÒáhyq sNbvX Ihn|v t]Sn-bm-bn-cp-Ðp. _pjv Kh-sÂÒv cmjv{Sob FXn-cm-fn-Isf shdpsX hnSp-I-bn-sæ-ÐmWv AtÉlw ]d-bp-Ð-Xv. eLp-hmb hnaáiw t]mepw kln-|p-I-bn-sæ-Ðv.....

Imav\á-: F\n-|-dnbmw henb `oj-Wn-bp-¾m-hp-sa-Ðv, _pjns\ hnaáin-®mã `oj-Wn-bp-¾m-hp-sa-Ðv. Abmã ho¾pw aÈ-cn-®-tÔmç, MvB, Abmç BZysà sXc-s¹-Sp-Ônã Pbn-®n-cp-Ðn-æ. Abm-fpsS A°sÒ tImSXn Abmsf Ir{Xn-a-ambn Pbn-Ôn-|p-I-bm-Wp-¾m-b-Xv. Aæ, Abmsf {]knU-¾mbn \nb-an-|p-I-bm-Wp-¾m-b-Xv. Hcp ]mSv _qÃp-I-fnã Abm-fpsS Kq¾-Iç Imh-en-cn-|p-I-bm-bn-cp-Ðp. Idp-à thm-ºáamsc Ahá\n-c-Ìcw t]Sn-Ôn-®p-sIm-¾n-cp-Ðp. t\m|q, Cu cmPyw kzmX-{Ìy-Ãn-emWv ]Sp-Ãp-báÃn-bn-cp-Ð-Xv. Cu _pjp-¾tæm Abmç Hcp ]Ú-c-hn-UvVn-bm-Wv, AXp XpdÐp ]d-bp-Ð-Xnã F\n|v ktÌm-j-ta-bp-èq. FÐmã hnUvVnÃw B]-XvI-c-amb Hcp kwK-Xn-bm-Wv, Abmç AXv th¾{X D]-tbm-Kn-|p-Ibpw sNàp-Ðp-¾v. Cæ, F\n|v t]Sn-bn-æ. Fgp-Ãp-Imá t]Sn-®p-Iq-Sm. t]Sn, Fgp-ÃnsÒ e¢ysà ]cm-P-b-sÔ-Sp-Ãp-Ðp. icn---sX-âp-Iç temI-Ãn\v ImWn-®p-sIm-Sp-|-em-W-Xv. A\p-bm-bn-I-fn-æmsX t\Xm-|-fn-æ. _pjnsÒ A\p-bm-bn-Iç kÚ-Ð-cm-Wv. ]W-ap-s¾-ÐXv sIm¾p-am{Xw Hcmç|v Xe-t®m-dp-¾m-h-W-sa-Ðn-æ. ]cn-tim-[n-|-Ô-tS-¾pÐ Hcp ac-a-¾-\m-W-bmç.


^co-Z-: CÐv Atacn-|Ë Pohn-X-Ãnã Ihn-Xbv|v AwKo-Im-c-ap-t¾m?

Imav\á:- D¾v FÐpw, Cæ FÐpw ]d-bmw. Hcp-]mSv t]á Ihn-X-bnã CS-s]-Sp-Ðp-¾v. Ah-cpsS FÁw háÊn-|p-I-bm-Wv. P\-ªç{]-Xym-i-bv|mbn ]te-SÃpw t\m|p-I-bm-Wv. Nne CS-ªç, CS-\m-gn-Iç- Aªs\ ]te-S-Ãpw. temIw sXâmb hgn-bn-te-|mWv t]mhp-Ð-sXÐv tXmÐp-Ðp. apÚv ImWmË Iqºm-|m-Xn-cpÐ Nne-I-Áp-Iç CtÔmç Ie-bn-te-|v, Ihn-X-bn-te|v Xncn-bp-Ð-Xmbn RmËa-\-ün-em-|p-Ðp. Ahá|v shfn®w thWw.FÐmã CtÔm-gp-ap¾v Hº-\-h[n kyqºp-Iç( Aª-s\bmWv RmË kzmáÄn-Isf hnfn-|p-I.) D¾v. Ahá|v kzÌw ]gvkn-\-Ôpdw HÐp-an-æ. Ahsc c¢n-|m-\m-hn-æ. Ahás|mÐpw a\-ün-em-hn-æ. \ná`m-Ky-h-imã, Cu kyqºp-I-fmWv Fæm taJ-e-I-fnepw NcSv hen-|p-Ð-Xv.


^co-Z-: tÕtâm-hn\v {]tNm-Z-\-sa-ÐXv DÑm-Z-Ãn\-Sp-ÃAh-öbm-bn-cp-Ðp, DÑmZw XsÐbm-bn-cp-Ðp. Hcp ]cn-[n-hsc AtÉlw ]d-bp-ÐXv icn-bp-am-bn-cp-Ðp. {]tNm-Z-\-ap-¾m-hp-Ð-Xp-hsc, kzt_m-[-Ãnã\nÐv ]pdÃv t]mhp-ÐXv hsc, kza-\üv XÐnã\n-Ð-I-Ðp-t]m-hp-Ð-Xp-h-sc, Ihn-b-bnã bmsXmcp Is¾-Ã-ep-ap-¾m-hp-Ðn-æ. Cu Ah-ö-bn-se-Ãm-Xn-cn-|p-thmfw Abmç Ai-~\pw kzÌw shfn-]m-Sp-Iç ]d-bmË Ign-bm-Ã-h-\p-am-Wv, tÕtâm ]d-bp-Ðp.

Imav\á:- Ihn-X-bnse DÑm-Zm-h-ö-sbÐ LS-I-hp-ambn RmË ]qáW-ambn tbmPn-|p-Ðp. Dêv, CXm-hmw, A|-Z-an|v Ihn-I-fp-am-bpè FsÒ iWvT-bpsS Imc-W-hpw. Ahá|v Cu DÑm-Z-an-æ. Cu DÑm-Z-sÃ-Ôân Ahá ]e tImgvkp-Ifpw ]mkm-bn-sbÐ Nne IS-em-kp-Iç Ah-cpsS ssIh-i-ap-¾m-hmw. ]t¢ AXæ bYmáÄ-amb Ihn-Xzw. Ign-s¹mcp Znhkw F\n|v Npâp-ap-¾m-bn--cpÐ Nne-tcmSv RmË ]d-¹p-sIm-¾n-cp-ÐXv CXm-Wv. Hcp ]máºn-bnã sh®m-bn-cpÐp AXv. Ah-á ]d-¹p-sIm-¾n-cp-ÐXv IhnXm há|v tjmÔp-I-sf-bpw Ihn-Xm-c-N-\-bnã _n-cpZw \evIp-Ð-Xn-s\bpw ]ân-bm-bn-cp-Ðp. AXv XnI¹ Akw-_-Ï-am-sWÐv RmË ]d-¹p. HÐp-Inã\n-ªç Ihn-bm-Wv, Asæ-©nã Aæ. ¡mkv tIºv apdn-I-fnã NS-¹n-cp-Ðm-tem, FsÌ-©nepw Nh-®p-sIm-¾n-cp-Ðtem \nªç Ihn-bm-hp-I-bn-æ. tÕtâm ]d¹ B DÑm-Z-ap-¾tæm AXv `bm-\-I-am-Wv. Rm\Xv t\cnºv I¾n-ºp-¾v, A\p-`-hn-®n-ºp-¾v. aâmá|pw AXp-¾m-h-cptX FÐmWv RmË {]máÄn-|p-Ð-Xv. hfsd B]-XvI-c-am-W-Xv. ]c-am-h[n AXns\ AI-ân-|-f-bp-I, FÐnºv kzbw ]cp-t|-ev]n-|msX Ign-bp-ÐXv Fgp-Xp-I. Ihn-X-b-dn-bmsX Ihn-Xsb t]m|-â-Sn-|p-I.


^co-Z-: Ihn-X-bn-æm-bn-cp-Ðp-sh-©nã Xm©ç|v FÌm-bn-cpÐp \jvS-am-hpI?

Imav\á-: Ihn-X-bn-æm-bn-cp-sÐ-©nã F\n|v FsÒ i_vZw \jvS-am-hp-am-bn-cp-Ðp. Xe-Ip-Ãn-\n-ev|m-\pè FsÒ Ignhv \jvS-am-hp-am-bn-cp-Ðp. Rm\n-sæ-©nã ]máiz-h-XvI-cn-|-sÔ-º-h-cpsS i_vZw tIçÔn-|pÐ Hcmsf Ihn-Xbv|pw \jvS-am-hp-am-bn-cp-Ðp. hen-b, henb \jvS-ª-fm-Wp-¾m-hp-am-bn-cp-Ð-Xv. IhnX FÐnã\nÐv t]á]n-cn-bm-Ãn-S-tÃmfw, RmË Ihn-X-bnã\nÐv thá
]ncn-bp-I-bn-sæÐv RmË DdÔv \evIp-Ðp. AMvs\ kw`-hn-®mã , t\m|q, F\n|v \sæmcp h|o-ens\ Adn-bmw.


^co-Z-: Bcp-sS-sbms| Ihn-X-I-fmWv Xm©ç hmbn-|p-ÐXv?

Imav\á: -kXy-Ãnã A[n-I-am-cp-tSXpw RmË hmbn-|m-dn-æ. RmËX-sÐ-b-gp-Xp-tÚmç FÌn\v aâp-è-h-cp-tSXv hmbn-|-W-sa-Ñ\ NnÌ sNdp-Ô-Ãnte FÐn-ep-¾m-bn-cp-Ðp. am{X-a-æ, aâp-I-hn-I-fpsS cN-\-I-fmãkzm-[o-\n-|sÔ-S-cp-sXÐpw Ds¾-\n-|v. FsÒ i_vZw {]Y-a-öm-\Ãv hc-sW-Ðm-sWsÒ B{K-lw. FÐ-mã Nne-tÔmç _oânãkv Ihn-I-fpsS Ihn-X-I-sfms| Nne-tÔmç RmË hmbn-|m-dp-¾v, AeËKnËkv_áKn-tÒbpw Pm|v Izndm-|ntÒbpw aâpw cN-\-Iç. CX-c-I-hn-I-fnã alm-`q-cn-]-¢hpw tIhew A|m-Z-an|v Ihn-I-fm-Wv. Ahsc hmbn-|p-I-sb-ÐX-v ]c-a-t_m-dm-Wv. Ahá|vI-I-hn-X-bpsS _e-X{Ìw Adn-bm-am-bn-cn-|pw, ]t¢ Ah-cnã BÇm-hnsÒ t\áà Awiw t]mep-an-æ. RmË FsÒ ,s#mã|mgvNm kwL-hp-ambn \yqtbmá|n-em-bn-cp-Ð-tÔmç Bfp-Iç ]d-bp-ÐXv RmËtI-ºn-ºp-¾v, Hm Chá ]gb _oân-ep-I-fp-sS]nÑp-d-|má FÐv.


^co-Z-: F\n-s|mcp Ihnkvt\ln-X-bp-¾m-bn-cp-Ðp. Ahá ]d-bp-am-bn-cp-Ðp, Ah-cpsS A°Ëa-cn-®-tÔmç Icb-mt\ tXmÐn-bn-sæ-Ðv, Ahá|v A°s\ henb CjvS-am-bn-cp-Ðp-sh-Ðv. FÐmã Ah-cpsS CjvS Ihn acn-®-tÔmç Ahá|v IÁo-c-S-|mËI-gn-¹n-sæ-Ðv. AXp-t]mse FsÌ-©nepw A\p-`hw Xm©ç|p-¾m-bn-ºpt¾m?

Imav\á:- RmË Icp-Xp-ÐXv A°-\p-ambn F\n-|pè _Ïw XnI®pw hyXy-kvX-am-bn-cp-Ðp-sh-Ðm-Wv. AtÉlw hfsc apÚv acn-®p. F\n|v aqÐv hb-tüm-atâm D¾m-bn-cp-Ð-tÔmã AtÉ-l-sa-gp-Xnb Hcp IÃv Càn-sS-bmWv F\n|v Btcm XÐ-Xv. Aª-s\-sbmcp IÃp-¾m-bn-cp-Ðp-sh-\z\v RË Adn-bp-Ibnæm-bn-cp-Ðp. Zpcn-X-a-\p-`-hn#v-I-Ip-Ð-h-cpsS Hcp ]S-XsÐ \ap|v Npâp-ap-s¾Ðpw Ahá \-ÛpsS hgn-ap-S-|n-tb-|p-saÐpw AXnã\nÐv Ic-I-b-dmË FsÌ-©nepw hgn-I-s¾-Ã-W-sa-Ðp-amWv B ~Xn-ep-è-Xv. FÐmã CtÔmç AXv hmbn-|p-tÚmç F\n|v tXmÐp-Ðp, AsX-gp-Xn-bXv F{Xtbm aptÚ Bbnºpw Imcy-ª-sfæmw ]g-b-]Sn XpS-cp-Ðp-htæm FÐv. HÐpw Hºpw amdn-bn-ºn-æ. hfsc Zp:JI-c-am-Wn-Xv.